[room] Fwd: XGL your experiances..

[Michael Shigorin]

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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:40:12 +0800
From: "Senectus ." <senectus/gmail.com>
To: "Ubuntu Sounder" <sounder/lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: XGL your experiances..

I've been listening to a lot of podcast interviews and reading
articles on the whole "XGL/Compiz" thing, and one thing that I'm
hearing over and over again is that most the features in XGL are meant
to be just "demo's" or "proof of concept" features and will probably
not be made available for main line usage because the developers all
think they're "too annoying" to be used often of all the time.

I have to say I don't see it that way at all, I'm finding the wobble
feature as something that adds a very "organic" feel to the desktop.
It's something that is quite refreshing for me to see and use at work
every day since I first installed it.

The scaling feature is just utterly brilliant and massively useful to
me, as is the "opacity" plug these two features do actually increase
my productivity.

The "grey out" of stalled apps is a neat feature, but not entirely
accurate, and what I'd much rather have is the ability to slightly
darken or shade out all other apps but the one I have open and am
focus on right now. This would be VERY handy for my role where I'm
often flicking between many screens and getting up and out of my seat
often.

The cube trick is neat also but I've yet to find a use for it, If I
could setup my CEO with linux it would massively useful to him for
presentation purposes.

Does anyone else find these new features useful or are they just toy's
for you and after looking you've switched them off?

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----- Forwarded message from Craige McWhirter <craige/mcwhirter.com.au> -----

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:40:02 +1100
From: Craige McWhirter <craige/mcwhirter.com.au>
To: sounder/lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: XGL your experiances..

On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 21:08 -0500, Lukas Sabota wrote:
> I've only used compiz briefly (I had too many random X crashes with
> XGL), but what were your gripes with it?

Certainly not crashes. After I sent my email I switched back to xgl and
had a probe at the problems I had with Compiz to see if they had options
buried deep in gconf's twisted heart and here's what I found:

Cube:
- windows taking too long to appear when rotating.
This was resolved in a sense, in gconf by enabling the "in" option. This
changes the visual perspective from being outside the cube to being
inside the cube. A side effect was that as you rotated the cube, the
windows were already drawn as you rotated. A huge visual improvement.

Compiz:
- click to focus only
No apparent way to enable sloppy focus was truly frustrating but I
discovered by turning off "click-to-focus" that sloppy was the default.

- can't roll the windows
Still can't find a way to enable windows to be rolled. Although perhaps
I just need to learn more Scale (F12) love.

Enlightenment:
- screen won't draw cleanly
With xgl on, Evolution and only Evo would not draw it's entire screen
cleanly. This problem is no longer occurring. The joy of the ever
evolving state of Dapper :) 

Others that have since "Fixed" themselves:
- Scale (F12) didn't work.
- Move (clt+alt+shift+focus) didn't work

To the way I work, the above either not working or working poorly were
causing a major slow down in the speed a which I worked. Having resolved
the first 2 and learning a new way for the third, with others having
resolved themselves I think xgl/compiz will get a longer run this time
around. 

It's working great now :)

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Cheers,
      Craige.

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