[room] Fwd: The shiny Dapper logout dialog

[Michael Shigorin]

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:14:58 +0100
From: Eric Feliksik <milouny/gmx.net>
To: Ubuntu Sounder mailing list <sounder/lists.ubuntu.com>, lmanul/ubuntu.com
Subject: The shiny Dapper logout dialog

There has been discussion about how the shiny logout dialog in Dapper 
could be further improved. It's on 
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/33002 , 
which resulted in a proposal like 
http://librarian.launchpad.net/1632715/logout4x.png .
The reason for this was because the current logout dialog
a) has a *lot* of options
a) lacks a meaningful classification of options.

The "End Session" and "Pause session" headers try to give you the 
overall picture, and try to make the essence of the option clearer to 
people who don't understand what they do (and that are a lot of people).

Another option could be splitting the "End Session" and "Pause Session" 
parts in two dialogs that are accessible from the System menu.

There has not been a response from people that decide about this matter, 
so it wasn't rejected, too. Maybe it was overlooked. What do you think? 
Manu, do you have a say in this? Other people, is there some particular 
dialog you like/prefer?

Thanks!

Eric

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:46:06 +0100
From: Eric Feliksik <milouny/gmx.net>
To: Manu Cornet <lmanul/ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: The shiny Dapper logout dialog
Cc: Ubuntu Sounder mailing list <sounder/lists.ubuntu.com>

Manu Cornet wrote:
>Hi !
>
>[I just subscribed to sounder, no need to CC me]
>
>>There has not been a response from people that decide about this matter, 
>>so it wasn't rejected, too. Maybe it was overlooked. What do you think? 
>>Manu, do you have a say in this? Other people, is there some particular 
>>dialog you like/prefer?
>
>I personnaly like the idea. Since today is the UI freeze (and I believe
>it applies to this dialog), I think it could be made possible if :
>
>1) someone agrees to hack this *fast* (meaning: today). I'll try to code
>this, but I don't guarantee anything; if you were thinking of coding it
>yourself, be welcome :) And
>
>2) people who actually decide (meaning: not me ^^) agree with this
>change.
>
>Moreover, the whole pinky-background-and-different-font look & feel
>would probably take some time to hack. It'll be simpler to just have
>black title over the usual gray background, I guess.
>
>I'll try to post a mockup soon.
>
>Cheers,
>Manu
>
>

I myself don't have the skills to do it.
I understand the time-pressure the release-schedule inflicts on us, so 
let's keep it simple. If the 
http://librarian.launchpad.net/1632715/logout4x.png idea can't be done:

I'd say going for a polished 
http://librarian.launchpad.net/1612883/logout2x.png would be a huge 
improved. (This is IMHO, of course).

This means the following changes to current dapper:
1) re-ordering the icons in the current logout-dialog
2) Adding the titles in the black on grey like you say

Keep in mind the following:
logout2x.png does *not* show the sleep option, but it is in current 
Dapper. Sleep  should be under "Pause Session" of course.


So that would mean:


+--------------------------------------+
|       End Session                    |
|                                      |
|  [log out]  [restart]  [shut down]   |
|                                      |
|   ---------------------------- <-- already existing seperation line
|                                      |
|       Pause Session                  |
|                                      |
|  [lock screen] [sleep]  [hibernate]  |
|                                      |
+--------------------------------------+

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----- Forwarded message from Manu Cornet <lmanul/ubuntu.com> -----

Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:36:05 +0100
From: Manu Cornet <lmanul/ubuntu.com>
To: ubuntu-desktop/lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Logout dialog : 2 sections
Cc: Ubuntu Sounder mailing list <sounder/lists.ubuntu.com>


Hi everyone !

About an hour ago Erik sent a mail to attract attention on the
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/33002 bug
about splitting the logout dialog in two different sections. This was on
the sounder list, and I'm Ccing it, but let's continue this on
ubuntu-desktop.

Since the UI freeze is very soon (or strictly speaking, we're already in
freeze), I hesitated to try this. I finally wanted to make a quick try.
So here's what it looks like now :

	http://www.manucornet.net/GNOME/logout.png

There are titles for the two sections, and the icons are placed
differently: it is a "Pause" versus "Exit" approach, as opposed to a
"Light effect on the system" (Logout, Switch, Lock) versus "Strong
effect on the system" (ShutDown, etc.).

The code is already written (this is an actual screenshot).

So twhree questions: 

* How do you like the approach ? :)

* Should the two titles be centered instead of left-aligned ?

* Should I write "Pause session" instead of "Pause", and "Exit session"
instead of "Exit" ?

Cheers,
Manu

> There has not been a response from people that decide about this matter, 
> so it wasn't rejected, too. Maybe it was overlooked. What do you think? 
> Manu, do you have a say in this? Other people, is there some particular 
> dialog you like/prefer?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Eric
> 


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