[room] Fwd: Re: Why I won't be using Breezy *gasp*

[Michael Shigorin]

2 rider: бери на карандаш, что ли :-)

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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:14:58 +0800
From: John <dingo/coco2.arach.net.au>
Subject: Re: Why I won't be using Breezy *gasp*
Cc: sounder/lists.ubuntu.com

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>>9. This is a suggestion for improvement.
>>When I plug a cable into my Mac ( OS X), it's automatically
>>configured, and the system sets IP addresse, host name, routes
>>and so on. When the wire is removed, this is undone.
>>I'd like Ubuntu Linux to do the same.

SuSE 10 does it, and allowed me to set it up quite easily.


I installed SuSE 10.0 on the laptop. It's not for the Free Software 
purists, but some haven't the choice. This not the forum for discussing 
SuSE failings (folk here won't fix them), but some of the things it 
(arguably) does better can provide insights for improving Ubuntu.

Some of the highlights:
1. Real Java from Sun.
I have Java programs that uses AWT. I don't know the current status of 
AWT, but there's a wiki at fedoralinux.org that says it's incomplete 
(but with a different POV from once contributor who thinks it mostly 
works. Anyone here who knows the truth can fix it. I also want to use 
Swing, and I'm pretty sure that's far from done.
2. Real flash. I don't normally install any flash, but some will value 
this as I value real Java.
3. Acrobat reader. Ditto.
4. Wireless (Atheros for the latecomers) works for me, I think better 
than Breezy would (but Breezy+ should be better).
5. Hotplugging Ethernet is supposed to work: I've configured it but not 
actually plugged in an Ethernet cable.
6. My internal modem is configured and should work. I didn't get round 
to this in Breezy, the SuSE installer wanted to get it done.
7. slp and zeroconf both seem to be installed and working.
8. I had an opportunity to open the SSH port during install: if I were 
doing a headless install on a minimac  I'd not need Mark's xserv upgrade 
option:-)
9. There's about 1000 pages of PDF documentation on CD1. I printed and 
read part of it, it seems pretty good. There are options to connect 
using VNC and ssh to do remote installs, it uses slp to allow one to 
discover the system to be installed after it's booted, can install from 
CD/DVD (of course), and a network using NFS, HTTP, FTP and Samba.
10. Dependencies extend beyond packages: when one tries to configure a 
device (eg my internal modem) it offers to install the software needed 
to use it.

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